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Reinstate original census source information on Scottish censuses

The census citations on the Scottish censuses do not make sense any more. They previously did on the old UK site, albeit with some transcription and terminology errors, but never did on the US site, with nonsensical RG numbers which you have now imposed on your new platform. Scottish censuses were not kept at TNA, and are cited differently to English censuses. It may not seem important if you're not a genealogist, but source information is as important as the information contained in the records themselves for those who are.

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      • Adrian BruceAdrian Bruce commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Re "as you also run ScotlandsPeople you have access to it!!"

        It may not be quite as simple as you would like. DCTFH run SP on behalf of the Scottish Government - they do not control SP themselves so cannot just copy over files for use on FMP.

        What they undoubtedly *should* be able to do is walk down the corridor (be it real or virtual) and talk to the guys who program SP or load its data and understand the referencing system for the Scottish census. That's certainly what I want them to do (see below). It's synergy and is a major justification for big suppliers.

      • Fiona HallFiona Hall commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Absolutely! We need the PROPER references for Scottish Census data. And as you alos run Scotlands People you have access to it!!

      • Rosemary MorganRosemary Morgan commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        FMP USA has recently blogged about the importance of citing sources correctly: http://www.findmypast.com/content/citations. This lesson needs to be learnt in the UK as well, and nowhere is this more visible than with the Scottish census transcriptions, which need their proper GROS citations (not the made up English version). Please correct this asap.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The present way of citing the Scottish censuses makes it extremely difficult to trace the originals.

      • Adrian BruceAdrian Bruce commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Re Scottish censuses - ask the Scottish Government why! They've the ones who'd have to licence them.

      • C PertC Pert commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        As a Dundee based company DCT should be in touch with the Scottish system of registration. Please sort things out asap.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The Scottish census citations on FMP now have RG numbers. which makes no sense.
        Please put it back as it was on the old UK site
        DM

      • Adrian BruceAdrian Bruce commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I suggest you consult with your colleagues at ScotlandsPeople to understand their referencing system. Let's have some synergy across DCT!

      • Adrian BruceAdrian Bruce commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Nor do they use the HO or RG classes as the Scottish censuses were never at Kew, so will never have been assigned class, piece and folio. So far as I know, they use Enumeration District, etc, but your colleagues at ScotlandsPeople will know all about them.

        So far as I can see the 1901, 1891, 1881, 1871, 1861 censuses still have RG numbers, which must be totally made up from the census year. Please remove them from all the SCOTTISH censuses.

        The 1841 and 1851 censuses have correctly lost the HO class, thankfully. This analysis is based on a very, very small sample.

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